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The Real Future of Marketing with Seth Godin
February 27, 2025

In episode #2924, Eric chats with Seth Godin about what truly makes great marketing—creating meaningful stories and focusing on long-term success. Seth shares why understanding your audience is key and talks about his love for writing and how books can make a real impact. This conversation will inspire you to think bigger and aim higher.

Get a copy of Seth’s book “This is Strategy” here: https://seths.blog/tis/

TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES:

(00:00) – Understanding Modern Marketing Misconceptions
(02:52) – The Philosophy of Strategy
(05:47) – The Importance of Focus in Marketing
(09:04) – Games and Infinite Play in Business
(11:57) – Empathy and Its Role in Strategy
(14:47) – Navigating Systems in Business
(18:05) – The Power of Time in Strategy
(21:00) – Generosity and Authenticity in Business
(23:50) – The Strategy Behind Book Publishing
(29:10) – The Journey of Writing and Its Impact
(31:35) – The Birth of Email Marketing
(35:48) – The Importance of Focus in Business
(39:55) – Understanding Long-Term Games
(43:45) – The Transformative Power of AI
(48:34) – Education and the Need for Change Agents
(49:58) – Mastering the Art of Storytelling
(53:50) – The Balance Between Hustle and Patience

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